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Status Not under consideration
Workspace IBM i
Categories Security
Created by Guest
Created on Feb 26, 2018

CPY should not require *OBJMGT authority

As a developer I have view access to production files on the IFS. I need to write a CL routine to copy them for testing. I do not have authority to copy them using The CPY command. If I use windows mapped drives I can copy the files, if I use the "cp" command in QSHELL then I can, but I cannot use CPY. The IBM i Security Reference says that *OBJMGT authority is required, but that grants the ability to move the file, which we would like to remain read only.

Use Case:

Production file with read only access needs to be copied to the test system via a CL application and the developer cannot run the program due to authority issues. However the same user profile can copy the files using alternative commands.

Idea priority Low
  • Guest
    May 28, 2019

    IBM has no plans to remove the *OBJMGT requirement for CPY, so this request is being closed.

    Neither 'cp' nor the mapped drive will copy authorities. They are only concerned about copying the *data* and only need enough authority to access the data. CRTDUPOBJ requires *OBJMGT authority to the existing object, so this is consistent with CPY. CPY and CRTDUPOBJ are trying to copy the *object* with all of its attributes (including authorities). Different tasks, different authority requirements.

  • Guest
    May 16, 2019

    IBM has received the requirement and is evaluating it. IBM will provide a response after evaluation is complete.

  • Guest
    Apr 16, 2018

    The CEAC has reviewed this requirement and recommends that IBM view this as a “nice to have”low priority feature.

    The RFE raised forms part of a wider discussion about IBM i security and standards. The CEAC will independently seek an update and discussion with a senior IBM i security architect.

    Background: The COMMON Europe Advisory Council (CEAC) members have a broad range of experience in working with small and medium-sized IBM i customers. CEAC has a key role in working with IBM i development to help assess the value and impact of individual RFEs on the broader IBM i community, and has therefore reviewed your RFE.

    For more information about CEAC, see

    Therese Eaton- CEAC Program Manager