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Status Not under consideration
Workspace IBM i
Categories Core OS
Created by Guest
Created on Nov 21, 2017

ENDJOB OPTION(*IMMED) considered harmful

ENDJOB OPTION(*IMMED) has outlived it's usefulness. Modern code contains more subtle locking then in days past & often has exit handlers to perform cleanup. This is true of both client & IBM code (I'm looking at you, SQE). End *IMMED ends up causing too many zombie processes & dangling resource locks.


Use Case:

Go ahead and keep OPTION(*IMMED), but convert it behind the scenes to OPTION(*CNTRLD) DELAY(10) , or whatever delay you deem appropriate.


Idea priority Medium
  • Guest
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    Feb 16, 2018

    We do not plan to make this change. ENDJOB *IMMED does not prevent cancel handlers/iexits from running. Using ENDJOBABN can cause cancel handlers to be ended abruptly or not called, and for this reason we do not allow it to be used unless ENDJOB has first been issued against the job, and cancel handlers have been given enough time to reasonably complete.

  • Guest
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    Jan 29, 2018

    Yes, I understand you can not assert authority on a command parameter. Rob has suggested the use of an exit point to accomplish this. I second that suggestion.

  • Guest
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    Jan 29, 2018

    All powerful tools can be harmful when used inappropriately. However, sometimes these powerful tools are necessary. If you have folks that are not skilled enough to use them safely, remove their authority to those tools. But please do not try to protect me from your novice operators.

  • Guest
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    Jan 19, 2018

    A workaround until the arrival of Nirvana is to use a command exit point to change all *IMMED's to *CNTRLD and add a delay time. Search for QIBM_QCA_CHG_COMMAND. I've used this to:
    - Change SNDDST to SNDEMAIL.
    - Automatically generate a PDF of the joblog and email it to me whenever SIGNOFF is used and the user is QSECOFR

  • Guest
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    Jan 2, 2018

    Due to processing by IBM, this request was reassigned to have the following updated attributes:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - Power Systems
    Product - IBM i
    Component - Core OS
    Operating system - IBM i
    Source - None

    For recording keeping, the previous attributes were:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - Power Systems
    Product - IBM i
    Component - Availability, Recovery
    Operating system - IBM i
    Source - None