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Status Not under consideration
Workspace IBM i
Categories Db2 for i
Created by Guest
Created on Mar 27, 2020

Provide ARD Program(s) for non-Db2 Connect from IBM i

WRKRDBDIRE supports *ARDPGM but none are provided, by IBM. The system needs the easy abilitty to connect to non-Db2 database systems, like MariaDB, SQL Server using SQL via *ARDPGM. Provide basic support (perhaps using ODBC or JDBC drivers) for record-level access via SQL.


Use Case:

We've installed MariaDB on IBM i (in pase) and need to send data to that database from the IBM i side of the server. Using SQL is a clear choice, but the ability to do that does not exist. Dropping into Pase or QShell is not practical as it creates all kids of have-hearted challenges.


Idea priority High
  • Guest
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    Sep 21, 2020

    I worked with ARDGATE for a month or two and it kind of works--its more of a one-off custom solution that needs to be heavily modified for anyone else's environment. To the point of basically starting over so why bother? ODBC would be a good option assuming it is working and can be accessed natively.

  • Guest
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    Jun 10, 2020

    IBM does not intend to provide a solution to this request, so it is being closed. As mentioned in prior discussion in this RFE, ARD programs are the responsibility of the database provider, not IBM i. We recommend using one of the suggestions provided to access non-Db2 databases.

  • Guest
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    Apr 21, 2020

    The CAAC has reviewed this requirement and recommends that IBM not implement this request as a native solution. The point is that it is not IBM's responsibility to write ARDs for every RDBMS. However, for some of the Open Source DBs, there might some effort that IBM could apply there and, as commented below, the ARDGATE solution already exists and is generic.

    Background: The COMMON Americas Advisory Council (CAAC) members have a broad range of experience in working with small and medium-sized IBM i customers. CAAC has a key role in working with IBM i development to help assess the value and impact of individual RFEs on the broader IBM i community, and has therefore reviewed your RFE.

    For more information about CAAC, see www.common.org/caac

    For more details about CAAC's role with RFEs, see http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/Blogs/i-Can/May-2017/COMMON-Americas-Advisory-Council-%28CAAC%29-and-RFEs/

    Nancy Uthke-Schmucki - CAAC Program Manager

  • Guest
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    Apr 20, 2020

    Basically, the ARDs are the responsibility of the owner of the DB product, not of IBM. It is the same as ODBC, OLE/DB, or .Net drivers/providers. Oracle and Microsoft both used to have ARDs, but I don't think they are available recently.

    I agree with Mihael Schmidt's comment - Dieter Bender has provided a general-purpose ARD that works with any DB vendor/creator that publishes a JDBC provider.

    Also, an Open Access:RPG handler can be written. It CAN be written to be fully functional as to RPG opcodes, or to process the opcodes that the application or enterprise needs to use.

  • Guest
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    Apr 20, 2020

    The CEAC has reviewed this requirement and recommends that IBM view this as a HIGH priority requirement that is important to address. As crucial it is for other languages to access IBM i data it is equally important to make it possible to access other databases from IBM i in a simplified way.

    Background: The COMMON Europe Advisory Council (CEAC) members have a broad range of experience in working with small and medium-sized IBM i customers. CEAC has a crucial role in working with IBM i development to help assess the value and impact of individual RFEs on the broader IBM i community and has therefore reviewed your RFE.

    To find out how CEAC help to shape the future of IBM i, see CEAC @ ibm.biz/BdYSYj and the article "The Five Hottest IBM i RFEs Of The Quarter" at ibm.biz/BdYSZT

    Therese Eaton – CEAC Program Manager, IBM

  • Guest
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    Apr 13, 2020

    Hi Bob

    Would using the PASE based IBM i Access ODBC Driver for IBM i driver help?
    https://ibmsystemsmag.com/Power-Systems/08/2019/ODBC-Driver-for-IBM-i

    Cheers, Steve B

  • Guest
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    Mar 29, 2020

    similar as case-id 91865
    we wait since more than 4 years for native support

  • Guest
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    Mar 28, 2020

    Why not use ArdGate from Dieter Bender hosted on Sourceforge: https://sourceforge.net/projects/appserver4rpg/