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Status Not under consideration
Workspace IBM i
Created by Guest
Created on Aug 21, 2023

Submit job where the child job inherit the submitter job's QTEMP

Such option will free the submitted (child job) from the need to create objects in its QTEMP that were already exists in the submitter job's (parent) QTEMP

This can be achieved by a new SBMJOB keyword: QTEMP(*NONE, *ALL, *NOTFILES, <object type>)

Or via environment variable *SYS or *JOB

Idea priority High
  • Guest
    Oct 2, 2023

    Hi team,

    Sorry, wrong use case.

    The real use case I am talking about is the fact that when moving to a remote manager (i.e. not on local system), we need some objects (*PGM, *CMD, display files) to allow users running their jobs.

    So currently, when we have the full installed product on the system, the objects are accessible to the job by its library list.

    But if we switch to remote managing, there are no locally installed objects needed.

    The idea is that the managing service job will create those objects (restore from SAVF) onto its QTEMP, then submit the user job with all these objects accessible to the user programs in that job's QTEMP.

    Users doesn't have to change programs, we can provide the objects they need.



  • Guest
    Sep 27, 2023

    Hi team,

    I am well aware of the risks, but the benefits are great as well.

    And as I mentioned, there must be a switch to do this, with a default like today (no copy).

    By SBMJOB new parameter, or by ENVVAR.

    On other platforms like Linux that have many options for kind of remote service jobs to prepare an environment before spawning user process that uses these files.

    Like they build a wrapper script that first read the environments and prepare the spawned job environment.

    With IBM i SBMJOB, we can't tell the command within the SBMJOB to prepare an environment from somewhere.

    All that will execute is the command of the SBMJOB, no wrapper, no nothing.

    Please reconsider


  • Guest
    Sep 21, 2023
    Thank you for submitting your idea.

    There are many programs that create objects into QTEMP with the understanding that it is scoped to a job and copying the object to another job's QTEMP may have unintended consequences. Initialization may be bypassed if the object already exists, cached data may be dirty, indicators may be inaccurate, etc. A single switch to indicate whether to copy or not still applies to all objects within the QTEMP (it's not like you can pick and choose only the objects scoped to an application, for example). For these reasons I am declining the request.

    IBM Power Systems Development