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Status Not under consideration
Workspace IBM i
Created by Guest
Created on Feb 14, 2024

New API to return a Pointer to Associated Space of User-Objects

Today, some objects on the IBM i system do not have a DSPxxx command that supports either OUTFILE or in some rare cases, no DSPxxx command at all. In addition there is no API to get some of these object's properties.

This request is to provide an API in the spirit of QUSPTRUS, but QUSPTRAS (Pointer to Associated Space) which would return a pointer (it can be read-only pointer) to the associated Space for a given object. Today, *MENU, *CMD, *BNDDIR are some of the objects I'd like to be able to read the information stored in their associated space.

This will provide us with the ability to retrieve things like a *MENU object's attributes (Type, associated Message file), or *BNDDIR the actual entries in that binding directory.

We do mostly C/C++ development and the ability to get to this stuff without reading it in a SPOOLED file or similar, would be wonderful. We used to be able to do that decades ago, but now with QSECURITY(40) on just about every system, we need an API to get to that kind of info.

Thanks.

Idea priority Medium
  • Guest
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    Nov 13, 2024
    Given the current security environment providing an API for this information will not be done. For specific information from the associated spaces you may be able to request the creation of an SQL service to retrieve the data from the associated spaces in a more controlled manner.
  • Guest
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    Oct 31, 2024

    I am looking more for a way to get a point to the Associated Space for SYSTEM DOMAIN objects such as *CMD, *MSGF, *USRIDX. We already have APIs to get the A/S for programs, but we need it for these other objects because data is stored in their associated space that is no accessible. We want read-only access to it. So for example, on the QUSRUIAT API, a new return value of Pointer to the Object's Associated Space along with Size of Associated space data should be returned.

  • Guest
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    Aug 27, 2024

    Only for Binding Directories but not for the other objects, obviously. :)

    Also, I don't like the idea of having to create a file with the data that is produced by an interface that reads the data directly. I should also have access to that interface. Message Files, Menus, CL Commands, all have a similar requirement and we used to be able to get to that info. In fact, I once wrote a C program that read the *CMD object and re-generated the Command Definition Source that was used to create the command. That kind of ability no longer exists and I am of the opinion that it should exist. Thanks!

  • Guest
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    Aug 27, 2024
    The DSPBNDDIR command does have OUTFILE support and I believe the value you are after is there. Will that work ?