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Status Future consideration
Workspace IBM i
Categories Core OS
Created by Guest
Created on Feb 19, 2020

Object last used date not being updated for all object types

object usage not being updated all object types. A library was specified in an HTTP configuration.
SetEnv QIBM_CGI_LIBRARY_LIST RDB40

RDB40 library was marked for deletion as not being used, no objects being used in library.
Confirmed by disk usage report.
RTVDSKINV

In addition, all object types should have their Date Last Used updated.
Per IBM doc, Detecting unused objects on the system

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/ssw_ibm_i_73/rbam6/detob.htm

Object usage information is not updated for the following object types:
•Alert table (*ALRTBL)
•Authorization list (*AUTL)
•Configuration list (*CFGL)
•Class-of-service description (*COSD)
•Data Dictionary (*DTADCT)
•Double-byte character set dictionary (*IGCDCT)
•Double-byte character set sort (*IGCSRT)
•Double-byte character set table (*IGCTBL)
•Edit description (*EDTD)
•Exit Registration (*EXITRG)
•Filter (*FTR)
•Forms control table (*FCT)
•Folder (*FLR)
•Internet Packet Exchange Description (*IPXD)
•Journal (*JRN)
•Journal receiver (*JRNRCV)
•Library (*LIB)
•Mode description (*MODD)
•Network Server Configuration (*NWSCFG)
•Network Server Description (*NWSD)
•NetBIOS Description (*NTBD)
•Product definition (*PRDDFN)
•Reference code translation table (*RCT)
•Session description (*SSND)
•S/36 machine description (*S36)
•User-defined SQL type (*SQLUDT)
•User queue (*USRQ)


Use Case:

Library which was thought to be not used was deleted.
Caused major issues as company website crashed.


Idea priority High
  • Guest
    Dec 3, 2020

    Updating the "last used date" for all object types is a large effort. IBM will consider updating the "last used date" for a library (*LIB) object. When the QIBM_CGI_LIBRARY_LIST environment variable was set (as listed in the RFE description), a *LIB object was referenced/used. In this scenario
    it would have been helpful for the "last used date" to be updated. We will investigate the other commands and operations where a library's "last used date" could be updated without impacting performance.

    IBM will consider this request for a future code update, though no commitment is made or implied.

  • Guest
    Sep 22, 2020

    Making changes to update usage information for all object types would be a large effort.

    There could be technical challenges and performance impacts involved for some object types so the list of object types/functions may never be complete.

    Could you prioritize which object types are most important to you to update?

  • Guest
    May 19, 2020

    The CAAC has reviewed this requirement and recommends that IBM view this as a high priority requirement that is important to be addressed. The object attribute values should always have accurate information, and it is a security concern for an audit to not have this information.

    Background: The COMMON Americas Advisory Council (CAAC) members have a broad range of experience in working with small and medium-sized IBM i customers. CAAC has a key role in working with IBM i development to help assess the value and impact of individual RFEs on the broader IBM i community, and has therefore reviewed your RFE.

    For more information about CAAC, see www.common.org/caac

    For more details about CAAC's role with RFEs, see http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/Blogs/i-Can/May-2017/COMMON-Americas-Advisory-Council-%28CAAC%29-and-RFEs/

    Nancy Uthke-Schmucki - CAAC Program Manager

  • Guest
    Apr 17, 2020

    Due to processing by IBM, this request was reassigned to have the following updated attributes:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - Power Systems
    Product - IBM i
    Component - Core OS
    Operating system - IBM i
    Source - Client

    For recording keeping, the previous attributes were:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - Power Systems
    Product - IBM i
    Component - System Management
    Operating system - IBM i
    Source - Client

  • Guest
    Mar 18, 2020

    The CEAC has reviewed this requirement and recommends that IBM view this as a MEDIUM priority requirement that should be addressed.

    CEAC recognises the value of the RFE, but feels that auditing could be used as an alternative of tracking usage today. Enabling this level of object tracking might impact performance.


    Background: The COMMON Europe Advisory Council (CEAC) members have a broad range of experience in working with small and medium-sized IBM i customers. CEAC has a crucial role in working with IBM i development to help assess the value and impact of individual RFEs on the broader IBM i community and has therefore reviewed your RFE.

    To find out how CEAC help to shape the future of IBM i, see CEAC @ ibm.biz/BdYSYj and the article "The Five Hottest IBM i RFEs Of The Quarter" at ibm.biz/BdYSZT

    Therese Eaton – CEAC Program Manager, IBM

  • Guest
    Feb 21, 2020

    Agree

  • Guest
    Feb 21, 2020

    It also looks like that last used date for *CMD is not updated according to
    an article by Simon Hutchinson.

    You can find it here (search for the string "command"):
    https://www.rpgpgm.com/2020/02/additions-to-object-statistics-table.html#more