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Status Delivered
Workspace IBM i
Categories Languages - RPG
Created by Guest
Created on Jan 4, 2018

Add Joblog Messaging Built-in Function to RPG IV

Need simplified methods for writing messages from RPG IV to the Joblog. To that end, we need built-in function that will:
write to the joblog using Qp0zLprintf or similar. This built-in function should be named %JOBLOG.
Send various message types (*COMP, *INFO, *DIAG, *ESCAPE) within RPG. This built-in function could either be %SNDMSG() with various parms, or a set of built-ins %SNDxxxMSG() with msg type as the xxx portion.


Use Case:

We've been using Qp0zLprintf with an RPG IV wrapper successfully for decades, however we need a native RPG version of same in order to provide simplified job logging, and debugging capabilities. The Qp0zLprintf as a built-in (or similar interface) is critical to successful diagnostics and debugging in modern RPG systems, especially while doing WEB or HTTP (e.g. WATSON) interfaces.


Idea priority High
  • Guest
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    May 3, 2022
    IBM believes that the request described has been solved and is available with PTFs for 7.3 and 7.4 with the new SND-MSG operation code. See https://ibm.biz/rpgcafe_spring_2022_new_messaging_opcodes

    7.3 PTF for the RPG compiler: 5770WDS SI79717
    7.3 PTF for the RPG runtime: 5770SS1 SI79656

    7.4 PTF for the RPG compiler: 5770WDS SI79711
    7.4 PTF fr the RPG compiler with TGTRLS(V7R3M0):: 5770WDS SI79719
    7.4 PTF for the RPG runtime: 5770SS1 SI79655

    Note: You need the PTF for the RPG runtime on any system where you run a program with the SND-MSG operation code.
  • Guest
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    Apr 4, 2022
    If this feature is implemented, it will most likely be in the form of a new operation code rather than a built-in function.

    - IBM Power Systems Development
  • Guest
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    Mar 30, 2021

    Hi Barbara,
    %SNDMSG() or similar with no substitution values at all would be a "B" solution, while one with substitutions would be an "A".
    But the need is there to go onto anyone's system and write code and use %JOBLOG() (or whatever) and write text to the joblog. If I have to use + and %TRIM() to do it, then so be it.
    Also, I know about the %CHAR(%date()) thingy. I just have a "tic" when I see a colon followed by a percent sign :) (But you already know that.) ... %joblog('Hello %s. It is %s o''clock' : Usrprf :%char(%time():*USA));

  • Guest
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    Jan 4, 2021

    If you use %CHAR for non-character parameters, you can use POINTER-VALUE-OPTIONS(*STRING) for all the parameters, and use %s for all the parameters in the template.

    myJoblogFunc('Today is %s and it is %s degrees in %s' : dayofweek : %char(temperature) : city);

    Or, instead of supporting multiple parameters for your wrapper, just support a single string and use RPG's concatenation.

    myJoblogFunc('Today is ' + dayofweek + 'and it is ' + %char(temperature) + ' degrees in ' + city);

    If RPG adds a new opcode or build-in function for this, it wouldn't have parameters like the printf-type parameters %s and %D. It would just have a single "message" operand. You'd have to build up the message using concatenation.

  • Guest
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    Dec 29, 2020

    Note that (A) The NEWLINE character is X'25' and (B) that RPG does not have a way to support ... parameters from C-based APIs.
    The ability to pass Date/Decimal/Integer/Char Strings is currently not possible.

    dcl-s dayofWeek varchar(10) Inz('Tuesday');
    dcl-s temperature packed(5:2);
    dcl-s city varchar(25);
    myJoblogFunc('Today is %s and it is %D(5,2) degrees in %s' : dayofweek : temperature : city);

    Please show me how I can easily achieve this using today's RPG IV? The implementation either needs 21 quintillion variations of the prototype and OVERLOAD statement for which I would speculate RPG wouldn't be able to handle, or we need to limit it to just text/character parameters.

    If you mean you are going to provide an RPG IV version of sprintf() to RPG IV, and I can use the result of that in a future %MSG Built-in, I accept that solution path. But if you're expecting us to do something we can't, I do not accept the user-written Qp0zLprintf approach as a solution.

  • Guest
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    Apr 17, 2020

    This request is still a candidate to be an enhancement for the RPG compiler.

    Note that it is unlikely that the %JOBLOG aspect would be implemented. That can easily be achieved by writing a procedure to wrap the Qp0zLprintf() API.

    For example:

    dcl-proc joblog export;
    dcl-pi *n;
    msg pointer value options(*string);
    end-pi;
    dcl-c NEWLINE const(x'15');
    dcl-pr Qp0zLprintf int(10) extproc(*dclcase);
    *n pointer value options(*string);
    *n pointer value options(*string:*nopass);
    end-pr;
    Qp0zLprintf('%s' + NEWLINE : msg);
    end-proc;

  • Guest
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    May 28, 2019

    The CAAC has reviewed this requirement and recommends that IBM view this as a medium priority requirement that should be addressed. This would simplify error and message handling, which are both important practices to follow.

    Background: The COMMON Americas Advisory Council (CAAC) members have a broad range of experience in working with small and medium-sized IBM i customers. CAAC has a key role in working with IBM i development to help assess the value and impact of individual RFEs on the broader IBM i community, and has therefore reviewed your RFE.

    For more information about CAAC, see www.common.org/caac

    For more details about CAAC's role with RFEs, see http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/Blogs/i-Can/May-2017/COMMON-Americas-Advisory-Council-%28CAAC%29-and-RFEs/

    Nancy Uthke-Schmucki - CAAC Program Manager

  • Guest
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    Apr 4, 2018

    IBM will use this request as input to planning but no commitment is made or implied. This request will be updated in the future if IBM implements it. IBM will use votes and comments from others in the community to help prioritize this request.

  • Guest
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    Feb 16, 2018

    IBM has received the requirement and is evaluating it. IBM will provide a response after evaluation is complete.

  • Guest
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    Jan 12, 2018

    Due to processing by IBM, this request was reassigned to have the following updated attributes:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - Power Systems
    Product - IBM i
    Component - Languages - RPG
    Operating system - IBM i
    Source - None

    For recording keeping, the previous attributes were:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - Programming Languages
    Product - Developer for Power Systems
    Component - RPG/COBOL Development Tools
    Operating system - IBM i
    Source - None