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Status Not under consideration
Workspace IBM i
Created by Guest
Created on Feb 21, 2020

bring NATIVE graphical user interface to ibmi

bring NATIVE graphical user interface to ibmi, session based, fully supported natively by IBM, fully integrated with the operating system and workflow, as a normal display file for a RPG would be.

Some solution exists indeed in the aftermarket using openaccess, but must be something guaranteed and supported by IBM in the long term, like all the other toolchains in the operating system, having something so foundational must be provided by IBM itself.
IBM could integrate this existing solutions in the IBMi software with additional licences for toolchains.


Use Case:

bring NATIVE graphical user interface to ibmi, session based, fully supported natively by IBM, fully integrated with the operating system and workflow, as a normal display file for a RPG would be.

Some solution exists indeed in the aftermarket using openaccess, but must be something guaranteed and supported by IBM in the long term, like all the other toolchains in the operating system, having something so foundational must be provided by IBM itself.
IBM could integrate this existing solutions in the IBMi software with additional licences for toolchains.


Idea priority Medium
  • Guest
    Dec 16, 2020

    In a "insert generic gui/web interface here of the day" you lose many capabilities, like session visibility in the OS (many systems just runs all in the webserver process losing this aspect), and easy debug capabilities.

    IMHO, having a way to describe an abstract rich user interface components should be beneficial to the overall "intergrated" spirit of the IBMi system.
    Such "abstract rich user interface" can be used to render pixels remotely (ie PCoIP) or web components (a little like GWT does).
    RPG will be coupled to this "abstract rich user interface", like it is coupled to a normal Display File.

    Having in implemented in the system is I think right in the spirit of ibmi.
    You can then assume that an rpg programmer knows the "abstract rich user interface" language, like it knows 5250 display files.

  • Guest
    Feb 26, 2020

    There are many graphical interface available on IBM i. PHP, Python, Node.JS, Java, and more. We continue to focus on ensuring that the IBM i data and business logic is easily and securely accessible from these many graphical options. This allows our users to choose the options the make the most sense for their environment as well as being able to leverage the technical community as a whole as the world of Graphical interfaces continues to change and evolve rapidly over time.

  • Guest
    Feb 24, 2020

    There are already enough ways to create an IBM i interface. IBM should focus their efforts on items that would bring more value.

    Jason

  • Guest
    Feb 22, 2020

    I hope IBM immediately drops this request. 30 years ago this could have been the next big thing but now everybody wants a web and mobile interface. And definitely not a fat client. Wake up!

    And we need to integrate into the rest of the computer universe anyway. No data silos. So we need a way to communicate and this is mostly done with web services this day (perhaps sometimes via message queuing systems).

    So we DON'T need another UI library. We need ways to communicate ... NATIVELY. We need software libraries which can be used by ILE programs. There are (or will be) some very good alternatives like the ILEastic project or the STOMP (RPG Next Gen) project (just implementing Spec 1.2).

    There are already enough ways for creating a UI.

  • Guest
    Feb 21, 2020

    A solution (from the development philosophy) in a way similar to Pr*fo*nd UI would be a start, but must be provided by IBM with a stable specification and seamlessly integrated in ACS client.
    A good grid component and a way to display a simple image would be sufficient to start.

    For real success and backward compatibility, the user terminal (ACS) should integrate both 5250 and seamless and instant switch to graphics if the program flow switch to a graphic display file (no web stuff, to many hacks to bring the session illusion and the user must round trip between browser and terminal for many applications...... just integrate in ACS a graphical protocol optimized for WANs like PCoIP for rendering...).