Skip to Main Content
IBM Power Ideas Portal


This portal is to open public enhancement requests against IBM Power Systems products, including IBM i. To view all of your ideas submitted to IBM, create and manage groups of Ideas, or create an idea explicitly set to be either visible by all (public) or visible only to you and IBM (private), use the IBM Unified Ideas Portal (https://ideas.ibm.com).


Shape the future of IBM!

We invite you to shape the future of IBM, including product roadmaps, by submitting ideas that matter to you the most. Here's how it works:

Search existing ideas

Start by searching and reviewing ideas and requests to enhance a product or service. Take a look at ideas others have posted, and add a comment, vote, or subscribe to updates on them if they matter to you. If you can't find what you are looking for,

Post your ideas
  1. Post an idea.

  2. Get feedback from the IBM team and other customers to refine your idea.

  3. Follow the idea through the IBM Ideas process.


Specific links you will want to bookmark for future use

Welcome to the IBM Ideas Portal (https://www.ibm.com/ideas) - Use this site to find out additional information and details about the IBM Ideas process and statuses.

IBM Unified Ideas Portal (https://ideas.ibm.com) - Use this site to view all of your ideas, create new ideas for any IBM product, or search for ideas across all of IBM.

ideasibm@us.ibm.com - Use this email to suggest enhancements to the Ideas process or request help from IBM for submitting your Ideas.

Status Not under consideration
Workspace IBM i
Categories IBM i Access Family
Created by Guest
Created on May 19, 2017

data Transfer Component for EXCEL ( excel Add-in )

I am asking You the implementation of IBMi Access data Transfer Component for EXCEL ( excel Add-in ) provided with the IBM I Access for Windows product ( CWBTFCAI.DLL ) and not present in the new IBMi Access Client Solution product.
Almost all of our users have excel sheets designed to extract data from IBMi created with the old emulator and they want to continue using them.
It is not one or two sheets, but hundreds of sheets and it's not conceivable for us to reinvent them with the new Data Transfer functionality.
Thank You


Use Case:

All of our users complain about this problem and ask for the restoration of the functionality


Idea priority High
  • Guest
    Reply
    |
    Nov 30, 2017

    We understand the concern about the change in user interface. However, from a business perspective, it no longer makes sense for IBM to continue to maintain the code base that has Microsoft dependencies. For downloads, you should consider using the ODBC solution previously described. When downloading to an active Excel spreadsheet, the ODBC solution provides a better user experience than either the Excel plugin or ACS. The ODBC connection and query get saved with the spreadsheet itself. So all the user needs to do is open the spreadsheet and select Refresh under the Data tab. Here is a link to the video previously posted that will guide you through setting it up:

  • Guest
    Reply
    |
    Aug 21, 2017

    Both options are sufficient but having to recreate hundreds of spread sheets is very inefficient and makes this platform appear complicated to work with. Also, I don't think either option is user friendly enough for an average user.

  • Guest
    Reply
    |
    Aug 1, 2017

    The CAAC has reviewed this requirement and recommends that IBM view this as a high priority requirement that is important to be addressed.

    Background: The COMMON Americas Advisory Council (CAAC) members have a broad range of experience in working with small and medium-sized IBM i customers. CAAC has a key role in working with IBM i development to help assess the value and impact of individual RFEs on the broader IBM i community, and has therefore reviewed your RFE.

    For more information about CAAC, see www.common.org/caac

    For more details about CAAC's role with RFEs, see http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/Blogs/i-Can/May-2017/COMMON-Americas-Advisory-Council-%28CAAC%29-and-RFEs/

    Dawn May - CAAC Program Manager

  • Guest
    Reply
    |
    Jun 26, 2017

    In reference to this RFE's original request, as previously explained, there are two options for interacting with an active Excel spreadsheet:
    1. The ACS data transfer feature provides both download and upload support from an active Excel spreadsheet.
    2. The ODBC driver from the optional ACS Windows Application Package can be used to download data to an active Excel spreadsheet (just like the ODBC driver in the Access for Windows product).

    Anyone that wants to download data with the same functionality as the Access for Windows add-in and finds the new Access Client Solutions support for downloading to an active spreadsheet insufficient, should consider using an ODBC connection as previously described.

    If neither of these are sufficient, please be specific as to why.

  • Guest
    Reply
    |
    Jun 26, 2017

    Have done some testing and the ODBC connection satisfy all our needs, in fact, seems like all our Excel template were using the ODBC connections in the first place and no the Excel plugin, as I thought.

  • Guest
    Reply
    |
    Jun 26, 2017

    Great. Thanks for the explanation. It sounds like we are using the ODBC connection to download data from the IBMi to Excel. I will do some testing and see if our Excel template actually are using the ODBC connection instead of the Excel add-in, otherwise we have to migrate them.

  • Guest
    Reply
    |
    Jun 22, 2017

    The previous update on 2017-06-16 sounds a lot like using an ODBC connection to download data from IBM i to Excel. The ODBC driver will still be available in the optional "IBM i Access Client Solutions - Windows Application Package" and is a fine alternative for downloading data from IBM i to an active Excel (.xlsx) spreadsheet. For those not familiar with how to set that up, here is a video which shows how easy it is:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjvq5h3OTUM

    Using an ODBC connection has several advantages:
    1. The customized download is saved with the spreadsheet itself and does not require a separately saved .dtf (Access for Windows) or .dtfx (Access Client Solutions) file.
    2. A single spreadsheet can have multiple different connections saved to one or more systems.
    3. All data can be updated with a single "Refresh All" or a single cell can be updated.
    4. The down loaded data can be sorted on a per column after download.
    5. It also supports multiple sheets (as does Access Client Solutions).

    Anyone that wants to download data with the same functionality as the Access for Windows add-in and finds the new Access Client Solutions support for downloading to an active spreadsheet insufficient, should consider using an ODBC connection as described in the above video. Is there any reason this capability does not satisfy the requirement?

  • Guest
    Reply
    |
    Jun 16, 2017

    I think i understand the submitter of this RFE, as we facing the same challenge. The Excel Add-in has been one of the most appreciated function of the Client Access family for the end users. The asbence of the Excel Add-in in the ASC have made us to postponed the CA for windows to ASC migration and also the Windows 7 to Windows 10 migration.
    Yes, the functionallity to download to the "Active Excel Spreadsheet" is there, but it is not that user friendly for the end users.

    I discussed this matter with Tim Rowe at the common europe 2016 convention and if I understood Tim right, one of the reasons was that Microsoft would not allow Excel Add-ins in future releases.
    I think I failed to explain to Tim how the excel add-in is used, at least at every company I have worked for. We have 100+ or maybe even 1000+ Excel templates that make use of the Excel Add-in.
    The end user open an Excel template and the template already have the right layout and the end user just have to choose "Refresh all" and the right data gets downloaded from the right IBMi. The end user then just saves the Excel with a proper name, usually by just adding dates to the end of the name.

    What is the best way to handle this? The closest thing we have made to mimic this is to use .dtfx files and output to the "Active Excel Spreadsheet", but this requires that the end user have right Excel spreadsheet as the currently active spreadsheet and sometimes they have 10-15 Excel Spreadsheet open at the same time.
    We tested this for a selected group of end users and realize this confuse them and sometimes they downloads the data to the wrong spreadsheet and mess that one up.

    - All the Excel templates needs to be converted to .dtfx files (time consuming)
    - After you run an .dtfx file it ask if you want to save it, there is no option to disable the question (or it could be me not finding it))
    - We have Excel templates that uses multiple named sheets. How do you handle this?

    Is there a better way to accomplish this? The goal is that the end users should not have to change the way they work.

    Could an option be added to the .dtfx files so you could specify an Excel (or Calc) spreadsheet template to be opened before the download to the "Active Excel Spreadsheet" starts?

  • Guest
    Reply
    |
    May 30, 2017

    The Data Transfer support for IBM i Access Client Solutions provides the capability to attach to an active spreadsheet to perform both download and upload operations. Rather than launching the GUI for this support from the active spreadsheet (like IBM i Access for Windows), it is now launched from the product's main GUI. From the Data Transfer panel, you can attach to an open spreadsheet by selecting the "Active Excel Spreadsheet" option from the drop down box for "Output device" or "Input device". Once attached to the spreadsheet, the functionally is the same as IBM i Access for Windows. If there is missing functionality with this support, please clarify.