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Status Not under consideration
Workspace IBM i
Categories Application Development
Created by Guest
Created on Nov 4, 2020

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Develop *USER Activation Group

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ACTGRP(*NEW) vs ACTGRP(<myname>) is a bit challenging to beginner to intermediate RPG developers. It would be useful to have something like ACTGRP(*USER) that works like a named activation group. Specifically to avoid programmers using the DFTACTGRP(*YES) or ACTGRP(*CALLER) to the *DFTACTGRP. This new "named" activation group would be named *USER and provide consistency across all IBM i installations. This is similar to what we talked about during development of ILE and the ACTGRP named QILE, except it would have more adoption. The *USER activation group would be automatically started when the job is started to avoid that bit of overhead.


Use Case:

I have an app that needs to run in an Activation Group and I don't want the overhead of ACTGRP(*NEW) but also don't want to specify a hard-coded ACTGRP name, such as ACTGRP(QILE). Instead of I would specify ACTGRP(*USER) which would work like any named activation group but already be started when the job is invoked.


Idea priority Medium
  • Guest
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    |     Jan 25, 2021

    One objective that may not have been clear, is to encourage RPG developers to use something other than *DFTACTGRP. Currently many use DFTACTGRP(*NO) and ACTGRP(*CALLER). Which effectively means *DFTACTGRP. Given them something tangible they can easily understand without "learning ILE" could be beneficial to performance and resource scoping. So it would be nice to reconsider the "declined" status.

  • Guest
    Reply
    |     Jan 7, 2021

    IBM does not intend to provide a solution to this request at this time, so it is being closed. While the proposed *USER activation group may provide some simplification, there is a work around of using a naming scheme and named activation groups, which will provide similar functionality.

  • Guest
    Reply
    |     Nov 9, 2020

    Just to add clarity to the functionality of this request... When a Job is started, it will start 1 or more named activations groups identified as *USER, *USER2, *USER3, etc.
    Should the end-user job issue the RCLACTGRP ACTGRP(*USER) command, then activation group *USER would be ended, and upon the next program that uses it, it would be restarted within the job.
    The request is specifically for a *USER activation group however a system value of QMAXUSRAG would be nice to allow end-users to establish the number of *USER activation groups to start in each job. For example if QMAXUSRAG = 3, then *USER, *USER2, and *USER3 would be started. There would be no *USER1. This system value would be shipped with a value of 1, but also allow a values of 0 (alternatively *NONE is fine too).

  • Guest
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    |     Nov 9, 2020

    Due to processing by IBM, this request was reassigned to have the following updated attributes:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - Power Systems
    Product - IBM i
    Component - Application Development
    Operating system - IBM i
    Source - None

    For recording keeping, the previous attributes were:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - Power Systems
    Product - IBM i
    Component - Core OS
    Operating system - IBM i
    Source - None

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