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Status Future consideration
Workspace IBM i
Created by Guest
Created on Jun 19, 2022

Enable no-auditing of /tmp like QTEMP

Please change audit code to not audit any activity in /tmp direcotry when system value QAUDLVL has option *NOQTEMP set - or by adding a new option *NOIFSTMP. As this directory is to be used for temporary files by design like objects in QTEMP this can reduce audit data damatically.
Idea priority Medium
  • Admin
    Nancy Uthke-Schmucki
    Sep 20, 2022

    The CAAC has reviewed this Idea and recommends that IBM not implement this request. We agree with the IBM response about the impact this Idea would have on system security. However, the Comment that suggests a QTEMP folder should be submitted as a separate new Idea, though applications would need to be rewritten to use the support if it were provided.


    Background: The COMMON Americas Advisory Council (CAAC) members have a broad range of experience in working with small and medium-sized IBM i customers. CAAC has a key role in working with IBM i development to help assess the value and impact of individual Ideas on the broader IBM i community, and has therefore reviewed your Idea.


    For more information about CAAC, see www.common.org/caac


    Nancy Uthke-Schmucki - CAAC Program Manager

  • Guest
    Jul 20, 2022

    What we need is a QTEMP like in the IFS, that will behave like QTEMP when we can specify *NOQTEMP in SysVal QAUDCTL

    We do not wish to break anything, especially if it is in security.

    One idea could be to create an IFS folder which carries the job name/job number/job internal ID. This folder will be accessible only from the same job.

    A Scope message will delete it when job ends.

    Alternatively, to be able to build a folder with an attribute that will regard that its auditing is not performed when *NOQTEMP is in SysVal QAUDCTL


    Shmuel Zailer CEO & CTO

  • Guest
    Jul 19, 2022

    Thank you for submitting this Idea. This is actually a duplicate of IBMI-I-3037 which was declined earlier this year.


    We do understand how auditing will create a large number of records in the audit journal for some operations. However, while it may seem like /tmp and QTEMP are the same, they are far from it.


    The integrated file system does not have anything similar to the concept of the QTEMP library for each job.


    Objects linked within the integrated file system are available to all jobs, provided users have the correct permissions for access. We (the integrated file system) must perform audit based on the system, user profile, and object configuration.


    Any change to not audit the current /tmp and it's contents will negatively impact system security.


    In fact, a change to not audit objects that are in a system-wide namespace would negatively impact system security.


    Having said that, though, there have been many requests for some directory that is truely temporary, maybe on a 24-hour or 7-day cycle of cleanup rather than between IPLs which could be several months or longer.


    Even that, though, could impact system security as those objects would still be accessible to everyone. But, we are considering it.


    Changing this to Uncommitted Candidate. There is not anything in our current plans to do anything, nor is this a promise to make a change.

  • Guest
    Jun 22, 2022

    I agree also, because we have the problems that the journal receivers increase during the scans, and we have to keep the receivers 2 month.


  • Guest
    Jun 21, 2022

    We are the developers of iSecurity/Antivirus. During the process of checking a folder, if a .zip, .tar, .war etc. is detected, there is a need to open the archive and check each file separately. Naturally, this requires created files. Each created produces also some authority changes. After the check, a delete takes place.
    All this is recorded in the QAUDJRN...

  • Guest
    Jun 20, 2022
    It should be noted that due to the extra writing  of these events, this caused a high amount and size of logs in QAUDJRN and therefore this will lead to server downtime due to 99.9% disk space occupancy.
  • Guest
    Jun 20, 2022

    We are the developers of iSecurity/Antivirus. During the process of checking a folder, if a .zip, .tar, .war etc. is detected, there is a need to open the archive and check each file separately. Naturally, this requires created files. Each created produces also some authority changes. After the check, a delete takes place.
    All this is recorded in the QAUDJRN...

    We also came across applications that transfer data in temporary files. No one needs to trace these files creation and deletion.

  • Guest
    Jun 20, 2022

    I agree 100%. Why stop at /tmp. DB2 Web Query creates/deletes multitudes of objects. So many that I've disabled CO and DO auditing. When enabled, DB2 Web Query accounts for over 99% of the CO/DO entries in the audit journal.

    IBM i Auditing needs to keep pace with how the system is actually used.