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Status Not under consideration
Workspace IBM i
Categories Save and Restore
Created by Guest
Created on Dec 9, 2019

allow user storage limit to be exceeded while saving journaled objects

Allow user storage limitations to be exceeded while saving journaled objects.
Lets assume we have one or more users with limited storage MAXSTG(). This user owns a library and a journal. When saving objects in the library, journal entries Y/YS or D/DH are created which will increase the storage needed for journal receiver.
If increasing storage for new journal record fails (due to user storage limit reached), the save operation will post message CPA7090 (entry not journaled to journal...) reason code1 and waits for answer C/R. Operator must answer C for save to continue.

Use Case:

to avoid issues when running SAVLIB (even in SAVE21 operation) and continue to have a full saved system, a temporary increase of user storage (plus posting an appropriate message) would be appreciated.
Alternative would be to NOT save users objects and not write a journal entry - but then at least a list of affected users should be sent for further action.

Idea priority High
  • Guest
    May 6, 2020

    IBM does not intend to provide a solution to this request at this time, so it is being closed.

    This determination was made for the following reasons:

    A. IBM doesn't agree that individual operations such as save/restore should change limits that have been set by the customer.
    B. The user profile help text for MAXSTG states that owners of active journal receivers should be given *NOMAX.
    C. There is a workaround for the save operation: adding a reply list entry.
    D. The probability seems low.

  • Guest
    Apr 22, 2020

    Due to processing by IBM, this request was reassigned to have the following updated attributes:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - Power Systems
    Product - IBM i
    Component - Save, Restore
    Operating system - IBM i
    Source - Client

    For recording keeping, the previous attributes were:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - Power Systems
    Product - IBM i
    Component - Core OS
    Operating system - IBM i
    Source - Client

  • Guest
    Feb 17, 2020

    The COMMON Europe Advisory Council (CEAC) has reviewed this requirement and recommends that IBM view this as a MEDIUM priority requirement that should be addressed.

    Background: The CEAC members have a broad range of experience in working with small and medium-sized IBM i customers. CEAC has a crucial role in working with IBM i development to help assess the value and impact of individual RFEs on the broader IBM i community and has therefore reviewed your RFE.

    To find out how CEAC help to shape the future of IBM i, see CEAC @ and the article "The Five Hottest IBM i RFEs Of The Quarter" at

    Therese Eaton – CEAC Program Manager, IBM

  • Guest
    Jan 27, 2020

    additional info - i ran into this while moving PUB400.COM from P7 to P8 system:

    * SAVE21 to VTL gave a lot of messages when users reached their storage limit but had journals, the save cannot be journaled
    * Workaround was to add a reply list entry to answer C

    * REST21 to the new box gave an other situation. I monitored the SAVE21; the first user with no available storage and journals was for example BXYZ. At restore time, the system hang some time on first library BXYZ1 of user BXYZ. The RSTLIB failed due to device TAP01 was not accessible any longer. I repeated this twice so there must be correlation between user storage management and device driver.
    * Workaround was: after restore of user profiles, run a CL which increases storage of all storage limited users by some 50MB, then run the RSTLIB which was fine.

    This might be exceptional situation as PUB400.COM has some 35.000 user profiles with about 150 users reached their storage limit.