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Status Delivered
Workspace IBM i
Categories Languages - Other
Created by Guest
Created on May 9, 2018

Modern ILE C++ Compiler (at least C++11) and future support

We need a modern ILE C++ compiler (at least C++11). Furthermore this compiler should be frequently updated within a IBM i release. In order to be able to provide our software long term for the IBM i platform, we would also need support for newer versions of the C++ standard.


Use Case:

We are in the process to modernize our application running in ILE. C++ is a major language used in our software. In order to program modern C++ and to be able to use current versions of 3rd party libraries (e.g. boost) we need an adequate C++ compiler.


Idea priority High
  • Guest
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    Jan 31, 2023

    Is there any progress on this? I mean C++11 is a decade old already and is not currently supported from what I can find.

  • Guest
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    Jan 9, 2020

    State: Closed and Status: Delivered is not ok in our opinion.

    On V7R4 there are no new C++11 features.

    And AIX fixes in the XL C/C++ compiler are not fixed in the ILE C/C++ compiler.
    For example this fix https://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IV62158 is still missing on IBM i.

  • Guest
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    Jun 12, 2019

    Just looked at the ILE C/C++ Compiler Reference 7.4:
    https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/ssw_ibm_i_74/rzarf/hinst.htm

    Here is what it states:
    ILE C supports a subset of C99 features.

    ILE C++ supports a subset of C++0x features.

    Note the uses of the word "subset".

  • Guest
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    Jun 12, 2019

    I believe that I cannot find anything to do with the request at the cited URL.
    I have viewed the cited page and followed two links:
    IBM i 7.4 Base Enhancements
    General IBM i operating system

    In neither case can I find anything to do with the ILE C/C++ compiler conforming more with C++ 11.
    Tell me more. Is it in the 7.4 C/C++ compiler documentation?

  • Guest
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    Jun 12, 2019

    IBM believes that the request described has been solved and is available with IBM i 7.4. Details can be found on the IBM i Developer Works pages -
    https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home?lang=en#/wiki/IBM%20i%20Technology%20Updates/page/IBM%20i%20Technology%20Updates

  • Guest
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    Apr 23, 2019

    The CAAC has reviewed this requirement and recommends that IBM view this as a high priority requirement that is important to be addressed. Many ISVs are required to use a C/C++ compiler to take advantage of function or performance over developing in RPG. In order to retain and encourage ISV development, we need to get the C++ compiler as current as possible.

    Background: The COMMON Americas Advisory Council (CAAC) members have a broad range of experience in working with small and medium-sized IBM i customers. CAAC has a key role in working with IBM i development to help assess the value and impact of individual RFEs on the broader IBM i community, and has therefore reviewed your RFE.

    For more information about CAAC, see www.common.org/caac

    For more details about CAAC's role with RFEs, see http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/Blogs/i-Can/May-2017/COMMON-Americas-Advisory-Council-%28CAAC%29-and-RFEs/

    Nancy Uthke-Schmucki - CAAC Program Manager

  • Guest
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    Jan 9, 2019

    The latest AIX C++ compiler(16.1) contains two front end: XL-baes front end and the Clang-based front end. And it is only in the newly introduced Clang-based front end that the new C++11 and later features are fully support. See the following link for details.
    https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGH3R_16.1.0/com.ibm.compilers.aix.doc/migrate.pdf?view=kc

    IBM i's C++ compiler is at the same level of functionality as AIX XL-based C++ compiler from IBM i 7.3 TR1. Introducing a new Clang-based C++ compiler has lots of impacts to the system and going to be huge effort, we are looking to see if there are other options to support more C++11 features with the existing XL-based compiler.

  • Guest
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    Jan 8, 2019

    What needs to be done to get this RFE consideration?

  • Guest
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    Jan 8, 2019

    Now that the AIX C++ compiler has this support (C++11) please add it to the IBM i platform as well.

  • Guest
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    Aug 27, 2018

    IBM i is supposed to be a modern alternative to develop and run applications on.
    ILE C / C++ is a supported language, compiler and run time on IBM i.
    IBM i still does not fully support the 2011 standards for C / C++ in 2018.
    Draw your own conclusion.

    Also, why is this RFE still in "Submitted" status?
    There was another notable RFE that was in "Submitted" status for some time before ultimately being rejected.
    Another conclusion to be drawn?

  • Guest
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    May 18, 2018

    ... and not just the C++ compiler but also the C compiler.

  • Guest
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    May 10, 2018

    I would add, a highly optimized compiler as well.