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Status Not under consideration
Workspace IBM i
Categories Core OS
Created by Guest
Created on Feb 5, 2022

Option to set Fn keys text to s-Fn instead of F20 etc.

It has been over 30 years since a keyboard with F13 to F24 was manufactured. People entering the IBM i market in the last 20+ yeas have never seen one.
Please provide an option (SysVal?) that swaps the 1988 Fn key identification from F13 to F24, to s-F1 to s-F12 so that people in this space for less than 30 years can read it and know which key to press.


Use Case:

In retail and in Mfg, we hire a new Office or shop floor employee who is being trained on the system. "Where is F16?" which if followed by "I have to add what to know which key they mean? This is such an old system can't we replaced it?"
Yep


Idea priority Medium
  • Guest
    Mar 14, 2022

    Fair enough, but couldn't it be also part of the nation language translation steps? Just a thought in case there's a path to implementing this that you might have overlooked. Thanks.

  • Guest
    Feb 23, 2022

    Great idea, however it is true that each Fn key that you see at the bottom of a 5250 display is hard coded in the UIM panel source for that display, along with the description. So it would be a lot of work to update all the panels with function keys defined for F13 - F24, and then each one would need to be retranslated as well. Maybe if we had thought of this before the panels were all created, we could have separated the function key from the description, but all the panel groups include the "Fn=" as part of the hardcoded text string. For this reason I'm declining the request.

  • Guest
    Feb 15, 2022

    Massive for whom?
    You're expectation is that each Fn key on the screens are hard coded someplace.
    From what I've been told over the years, it is not. So instead of rendering F14 you render s-F2
    Heck, the 5250 client in ACS could do it instead of worry about it being done in code back on the server.
    There are already hotspots for that anyway. Instead of rendering a button with F14 text embedded in it, us s-F2 instead. I think it's about a "days" effort at best.

  • Guest
    Feb 10, 2022

    Due to processing by IBM, this request was reassigned to have the following updated attributes:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - Power Systems
    Product - IBM i
    Component - Core OS
    Operating system - IBM i
    Source - None

    For recording keeping, the previous attributes were:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - Power Systems
    Product - IBM i
    Component - Other
    Operating system - IBM i
    Source - None

  • Guest
    Feb 9, 2022

    I understand your point but the effort involved in doing this would be massive.

    Can I suggest instead that you enable Hotspots and use mouse or touch screen option to select function keys.

    Cheers Steve
    IBM champion, member of CEAC
    TD of i-UG.co.uk and friendly techie at RowtonIT.com

  • Guest
    Feb 9, 2022

    Good idea, except American's use AM/PM and don't know what 1600 hours means. :)

  • Guest
    Feb 7, 2022

    A user once told me about a simple way to remember it.
    Just think of a 24 hour clock.
    F16 is like 16 o'clock = 4 o'clock in the afternoon = shift+F4