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Status Not under consideration
Workspace IBM i
Categories BRMS
Created by Guest
Created on Jun 17, 2019

BRMS restauration issue

Scenario :
* Sunday FULL backup .
* Monday CUML backup - OBJ1, OBJ2, OBJ3 in LIBA saved
* Tuesday morning delete OBJ1 -
* Tuesday evening CUML Backup - OBJ2, OBJ3 in LIBA saved
* Wednesday scratch system :
- Restore from Full OBJ1, OBJ2, OBJ3 in LIBA restored
- Restore from last CUML Tuesday : OBJ2, OBJ3 in LIBA updated

We don't want to restore the deleted objects .
It's a problem to have the OBJ1 on the system .

How to manage the deleted object ?


Use Case:

2 cases of solutions from IBM:

There is a posibility by applying journal entries at the end of the restores (full + cuml) if the libraries were being journaled at the
time of the save. Journal code D entry type DT - will delete the deleted objects.


BRMS keep track only of deleted libraries and may prevent BRMS to restore them if you OMITLIB(*DELETE) on STRRCYBRM



--> These solutions do not meet our needs


Idea priority High
  • Guest
    Oct 28, 2019

    The BRMS team has previously requested more clarifying information. Because the additional information was not provided within 30 days, the request has been closed.

  • Guest
    Jul 18, 2019

    The BRMS team needs more information to further assess your Request for Enhancement.

    We follow the scenario that was listed, but we don't understand the environment and the resulting problem.
    ??? Can you describe the resulting problem in more detail? Is it an application failure? Does it affect a single application or multiple?
    ??? Are the objects deleted intentionally or unintentionally?
    ??? Are the objects deleted by an individual or application?
    ??? Is this issue specific to an application library or does this happen randomly to several libraries? If this is related to just one library, it might be better to just always do a FULL backup after objects are deleted.
    ??? Are the objects being deleted the same or different names and types or are they random and you don't know the names? If they follow a pattern maybe they could be omitted from the backup.
    ??? Does this scenario happen often, that a scratch recovery is required?
    ??? Is your expectation that BRMS automate the detection and omission of such objects or are you willing to provide the necessary data for such objects when this scenario occurs?

    We ask these questions in order to understand whether this situation is a general issue or specific to your current environment and process.
    BRMS cannot reasonably track when every object comes and goes from the system, nor can we reasonably infer automatically which objects are
    required or not required.